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GNX3 Thread :: Need Help Hooking My GNX3 To Comp 

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PerfectNebula

member since: 12/02/2003
messages: 18
 

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Need Help Hooking My GNX3 To Comp

12/03/2003


Im tryin to hook my GNX3 to my comp throught a USB MIDI adapter thingy I bought. I just wanna know what seeting to i have to set on the GNX3 to record and hear my guitar throguh the computer speakers

Eaglion

member since: 04/01/2003
messages: 729
 

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Re: Need Help Hooking My GNX3 To Comp

12/04/2003


I didn't use those usb-midi adapters. As far as i read here they are a bit tricky and success depends on brends and sound cards. Iocabus was wise on this but he hadn't showed up lately. Make a forum search. Write usb midi adapter in the left upper corner and check some of the results.

What's your card? Doesn't it have a joystick port? In case you do not know, midi port and joystick ports are same. you can plug your midi devices to it.

Aural Chaos

member since: 10/09/2003
messages: 197
 

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Re: Need Help Hooking My GNX3 To Comp

12/04/2003


Do you really mean "USB MIDI"? Cause MIDI is just a way for devices to communicate-it doesn't transmit any sound (well,usually,but that's a long irrelevant story).In the case of the GNX3,MIDI is used for the GenEdit app to talk to it.
If you are trying to record or monitor through your computer,you need some sort of sound card.There are dozens of styles,brands and price levels....

Mark Bratcher

member since: 04/02/2010
messages: 1940
 

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Re: Need Help Hooking My GNX3 To Comp

12/04/2003


PerfectNebula, the MIDI interface is only used for configuring the GNX. To record music, you would use the 1/4" audio outputs or S/PDIF into a sound card.

Jaded-View

member since: 04/01/2003
messages: 1939
 

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Re: Need Help Hooking My GNX3 To Comp

12/04/2003


I'd find it hard to believe someone would have a pc without a soundcard of some type.(?)

Like the others said, the midi connections on the gnx are for transfering patches (presets). This is how you'd download or edit with the GenEdit software.

There are two ways to connect audio.

For analog you simply use a 1/4" mono to 1/8" trs stereo plug adapter into the "line-in" socket on your pc's soundcard. You could also go stereo by adapting 2x 1/4" mono (r&l) down to 1/8" trs plug.

For digital you connect by coaxial s/pdif. If your soundcard has it, you should be set. If not you either need a new sound card with s/pdif or a usb audio interface with s/pdif. There's a quite a few to choose from. (Edirol, M-Audio, etc.)

On top of connections, you need some kind of recording software. There's a few choices here too. I use Cakewalk GuitarTracks Pro. It was relatively inexpensive, but a good bang for the buck for sure. Cheap alternative to Sonar. IMHO.

You will likely want to set your target system to direct, but worth experimenting to see what you like best. There's probably more to know, so keep the manual close by. It may not be the easiest to use, but there's a lot of info there.

Sorry if this is more (or less) than you wanted to know.

Hope it helps.
Johnny

Bob E.

member since: 11/24/2003
messages: 53
 

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Re: Need Help Hooking My GNX3 To Comp

12/04/2003


I have the same question. Neither my Mac G4 desktop, or my Winbook laptop have MIDI ports, even though the Mac has great buit-in MIDI cabability and the Winbook also has somekind of builtin soundcard and MIDI, although I don't know how great it is.

I'll go look on the Mac discussion forums and let you know what I find out. But I don't know from nothing on the Winbook (inherited from Dad), or much about Widows, so maybe you guys can help there.

Mark Bratcher

member since: 04/02/2010
messages: 1940
 

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Re: Need Help Hooking My GNX3 To Comp

12/04/2003


There's got to be an adaptor or something to get MIDI ports on your Mac or WinBook. MIDI isn't very great without MIDI connectors. ;-)

For audio recording, there's probably a stereo 1/8" jack on each of those machines.

Bob E.

member since: 11/24/2003
messages: 53
 

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Re: Need Help Hooking My GNX3 To Comp

12/04/2003


I went to the Apple support site and then Googled around.

The deal is that there are both Firewire and USB MIDI interfaces for Mac and PC (in fact, most work on both platforms).

The bad news is that the firewire interfaces run from about $400 to $2000+. The not-so-bad-news is that USB interfaces are cheaper (many from $40 to $200-300), but probably not as good for realtime recording because of the slower data transfer rates in USB. But for just communicating between computer and GNX (transfering patches, etc.) I suspect the cheaper units will work OK.

To see what I'm talking about, check out the MIDI Store site:

http://www.cdbm.com/

Augster

member since: 12/02/2003
messages: 75
 

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Re: Need Help Hooking My GNX3 To Comp

12/04/2003


Did I miss something? I'll spell out what I've gotten from this thread and all the great answers within.

If you want to mess around with genedit, you need MIDI ports. MIDI ports are accessible through your soundcard's MIDI port or old-school joy-stick port. That's all you'd use the MIDI for with the GNX3, changing presets and stuff through software instead of using the pots on the pedal.

If you want to record music, you will also need a soundcard, but you don't NEED MIDI ports on that soundcard to RECORD music. No matter what kind of soundcard you have, for recording you will be using either line in or spdif in. Not USB or Firewire. This is for recording music or playing through your computer speakers.

I think that's right. :)


Jaded-View

member since: 04/01/2003
messages: 1939
 

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Re: Need Help Hooking My GNX3 To Comp

12/04/2003


I think you got it Augster.

You use the midi to download the actual patch files from your pc to your gnx and vice-versa. This is how you'd share a patch you made with me. I beleive the gnx is actually capable of accepting some midi parameters for program changes, but that's kinda beyond me.

For midi connection to transfer presets, I use a Midisport 2x2 midi to usb adapter. Others use Midisport Uno. Works great.

The only way you would use the usb for "playing into your pc" is if you had a usb audio interface. I have been checking out Edirol UA-5. It has 1/4" and s/pdif as well as xlr with phantom power for mic. Pair it with a laptop and I geuss it doesn't get much more mobile than that.

Hope it helps.
Johnny

Aural Chaos

member since: 10/09/2003
messages: 197
 

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Re: Need Help Hooking My GNX3 To Comp

12/05/2003


"Not USB or Firewire. This is for recording music or playing through your computer speakers."

Not necessarily.USB and Firewire are 2 ways to connect the soundcard to the computer.Those and a PCMCIA slot are the ONLY ways if you have a laptop.

Also,while onboard sound MAY be OK,it is usually not sufficient to monitor in real time-the latency is too high.To do that,you might well need some a better solution, with low-latency drivers.

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